Opinions on the current candidates?
I personally am rooting for Obama.

Uhh who are they again? XD I havent heard anything about it for about a week now.

Obama and McCain are left (Ron Paul's allegedly in, but he's a nut). Hilary dropped recently.

Then Obama. No contest.

wtf happened to the green party

Bleh I hate both of them...

McCain is Go!!
McCain will hopefully win, I like where he stands and what he has in store for America(*fuck yeah*) , while Obama will surely send us into another Depression, he has good character to want to help, but free this and get that will cause the American Dollar become 1/8 of what it's really worth in the world and we will HAVE to go to war to fix it like the last Depression!!!!

What, you're fucking serious?

McCain wants to continue the war, which has cost us $3 trillion, putting us in the greatest deficit we've ever known. You can't talk about Obama putting us into the poor house when McCain wants to do exactly that.

Also, for someone that's all up in arms over gay rights, you seem to be getting unusually gung-ho about a conservative republican. You do realize that they're the ones that are all "anti-gay-rights", right?

And for the record, the Great Depression (which this isn't even close to) was solved due to public works projects, the swift action of FDR (a democrat, btw) in the application of his New Deal programs, and lastly selling munitions/ammo to the allies. Without the first two, I don't think we would have made it out of there.

Democrats > Republicans

I know this is mild spam, but really, do I need to say more?

Green party candidate is sitting at her fathers computer will i fiddle on hers.

Honestly though. I don't know who to vote for in this one. both candidate suck.

I'm glad Hilliary dropped out of the race, she scared the shit out of me.

I somewhat agree. I'm not too fond of Obama myself, but he's better than Bush either way XD

Personally I would have liked seeing Hilary in office.

Now looky here Mccain is nothin but a Democrat in Republican clothing.

He can CLAIM to be as conservative as he wants, but a true conservative such as myself can plainly see that he aint got a conrvative bone in his body.

If I was old enough I'd be running for presidant my self.

I don't beleive any one should have any more or less rights than anyone else. I don't beleive any one should be given special treatment. Especially not because of their sexual preference! I could care less if your gay, straight, bi, black, white, mexican, indian, male, female, democrat, republican, christian or athisist. I don't think there should be special programs for any of you.

Everyone should have the same oppertunities. People should be able to get a job based on who's more qualified, not who will do the job for the lowest calliary or to meet the ratio requirements needed to get a "variety of empoyee" to show that your business doesn't discrimnate.

Don't try to tell me that people don't do that, because they do.
I myself was turned down from a job because and i quote " We already have our white employee quota met. I'm sorry but we can't hire any more white people." One of my gay friends went in for the same job and was hired on the spot because they had a major shortage in gay applicants. This friend of mine has been passed up from grade to grade without knowing how to READ. I have and exeptionally high reading level. The job was one in which requires alot of reading.

I dunno how you can say that on a website owned by a girl in special ed classes.

Are you aware of the fact that during the 8 years Bill was President, Practicaly everyone in their administration "committed suicide" or so all their deaths were deemed. On guy inparticular was a young guy hired just to deliver to secret files. He bumped in to a tour guide one day and spilled top secret papers everywhere the tour guide helped him pick them up. In doing so they discovered some picuters of Hilliary having sex with a man that was not Bill.
A couple days later both him and the tour guide were found dead her throught was slit and he had 5 bullet wounds in his back. Both were deemed suicide.
A week later the man in the pictures was found stabbed to death, and they called it a suicide.

These so called "suicides" are just one of the things about her past that scare the shit out of me. I have no doubt that if Obama chooses her for his vice president that he will be assisnated with in the first year of his presidency, possibly even the first week.

Haha wow because who you have sex with totally makes people want to kill you

That wasn't ment to be funny.

If what I learned is correct, the Great depression was solved BECAUSE of WWII!! our money was shit, so we had to make the money worth more by suping up our military and making war efforts to send the soldiers all the best meats, foods, metal, and rubber leaving the U.S. with little stuff, which people bought for a higher price, which made our salaries go up , witch corrected our ecosystem!

I DON'T stand for GAY rights, you fuck'n ass*humps your fuck'n ass*
I DON'T belive in gay marrige, because I don't belive in any marrage.
I'm BI, don't plan on EVER getting married,And will never march on D.C. for rights of any kind.

I Don't belive in what Obama stands for, I know what he stands for, and like I said, Helping our community TOO much will FUCKING HURT US more than help!!!!!
I like minimalists, little government action is the best, we're doing okay right now, we don't fucking need help, we WANT help bacause a large part of the community is too FUCK'N LAZY to get off their 375LB ASSES and WORK so we don't end up like a FUCKING third world country!!!!

when has little gov't action been the best? If we're standing on the edge of depression as you say, wouldn't we want someone a bit less like Hoover?

Minimal Govermental control is better than Total Governmental control such is what they have in communist countries.

The worst course of action you can take in any situation is nothing. However, obviously too much control is bad as well (usually). I'd also like some sources for those strange claims of Hilary being on par with Stalin's secret police. >>
Phunkie, you want gay people to be lynched/beat up/etc simply for being gay?

who the fuck said I wanted that?
I just don't stand in the "obvious same-sex-love" crowd!
Gays wan't the ability to marry eachother more than anything, who cares...
I never said I wanted them beat like blacks after the civil war...
and also, Gays probably would do better if they knew how to fight and defend them-selves, most gays i've seen are weak and pathetic, they need to gain some muscle mass!!!

I mean, look at me! i'm 6'1'', big,and look like a threat more than anything, i've never been called gay or homo 'cept by Storm and Laura, and they mostly were kidding I do belive.

(EDIT NOTE: And also, gays don't need to go around all "Look at me! I'm gay ^.^!"
or "we're here, we're qweer, get used to it"...that makes me think"most gays are real fucking special" you don't see people going around like "I'm a level 87 Dark Night online!!" or"I'm a high school wrestler and i'm super strong" or "i'm Italian and I'll put a whoopin on you with my meatballs!"...you don't need to announce every fucking thing you may be proud of!!!!)

I thought they did that because they were looking for attention.

Also, most gay people aren't super-muscular in america because most people in america aren't super muscular.

In a place like Switzerland, however, you will see bodybuilders holding hands.
(It's actually kind of hot.)

First of all: to those of you who think that the government is going to take over every aspect of your life, if a "big scary democrat" is elected into office, you clearly are posting from Soviet Russia (where road forks you!!).

Second: to those who think that every republican is one of Satan's minions in disguise needs to wake up and smell the triple latte double mocha espresso from Starbucks (this means you, Storm). There are plenty of people on both sides of the fence who want to do what's good for this country and there are plenty of people on both sides who will fuck you up if given the chance. It simply isn't fair to judge them based on their parties. Having said that, I can honestly say that I hate McCain with every fiber of my being for who he is and what he stands for, not his party.

Those of you who think that staying in Iraq for one hundred years while getting the rest of Arab world pissed is a good idea, congratulations! You are Satan's minion in disguise. Punch and cookies are to your left: please enjoy.

Barack Obama is someone I would support at this point if he was some hillbilly cousin-toucher from Alabama. I hate McCain that much. But, I honestly believe in what he says and does. He is a refreshing spring breeze (play Phoenix Wright if you don't get the pun. Right now. Come back when you are done.) in the world of politics. He is a visionary inspiration if only because he has not sold his soul, unlike Hilary "Oldbag" Clinton (if you didn't get it you didn't do what I said.). And that's all I have to say on the matter. Thank you and goodnight.

*applauds Edgey*

A well-thought-out reply.

And Storm says, and it was a bitch to type, too!

[[Phone-posting ftw]]

I would like to take the time to correct some of these misconceptions that have taken place in this topic. First of all, I would like to inform you of how the American dollar does not rise during the course of any war.

Throughout history, money has gone through huge depreciations thanks to war. Why? This is because money has to be spent on 1) soldiers 2) military equipment 3) technological research which really has no benefit towards the dollar as it only leads to more war in future generations which we must then further our advancements in such a field. While using such technology and selling it all the same may give immediate increases, it fails to do so over extended periods of time. Not only these few points, but thanks to deaths from wars as well, we must also pay for funeral costs, marches and burial ceremonies that the army/marines/navy/U.S. air force must then also supply. Violence with if we should go to war or not between the American populace, protests, refusal to attend work for such causes and other struggles stir up, causing our dollar to plummet as well. Once more, we must also borrow money from other countries as a way to supply all of these factors on short notice. Why do you think we are 3 trillion dollars in DEBT? You don't go into debt from borrowing from yourself.


Therefore, I must say that Phunkie Zero....your ideas are unfounded and fundamentally flawed. Please refrain from continuing on about this subject until you feel you are more educated in such a matter.

As for your comments J. Depp. You mentioned how Hilary had supposedly had a hand in the deaths of a tour guide, a newly employed government worker, and a few others. I will not deny that our government does indeed have a hand in a few "unknown" deaths in our past. However, our government is also top notch at keeping secrets. Especially if they are willing to kill for them. So, lets dissect this matter. Lets look at Bill first. If he had been caught having sexual relations with someone other than Hilary, how is it that he had been caught, with no supposed deaths, and everything negative simply happening to him, and him alone, with of course the exception of those who favored him and whose political campaigns rided on his good name. Wouldn't he have been the one to use that as he was president, over the first lady? However, lets assume that he was simply too good of a person to resort to such.

Okay, if Hilary had truly resorted to such lengths to kill all those who saw, or even knew of those pictures, how would we know about it? As I stated before, the government is fairly good at keeping any secret it wishes to maintain. This secret would not have been leaked, especially considering Hilary's cold hearted murdering self as you seem to see her as. Also, why would such TOP SECRET information be handed out to a frantic...NEW government worker. ALSO, why would he be running into a tour guide as the tours are usually reserved for the west wing of the building, while all the paper work, and real government (including TOP SECRET information) business is kept in the east wing, or not even in the White House itself. Something like that would be more likely found in the Pentagon.

Finally, how would pictures be taken of both Hilary and her secret lover. Was there a third person? Does Hilary have a secret freaky side? Go Hilary. Pushing 60 and still wild. You see, I can't suspect that it could have been taken by the paparazzi as 1) I doubt Hilary would be careless enough to do it in a place where cameras are likely to be found, considering she a maniacal murdering machine that finds out when new employees drop papers and has them killed, and 2) the government wouldn't have it in their secret files if it HAD been taken by them.

So your ideas are unfounded as well, and are simply brought up through gossip or something similar.



Now to finish off with a reply to Phunkie Zero.

You clearly stated that gays are sissys that lack the ability to fight, correct? Tell me if you didn't make this claim. However, it appears that you have, and therefore, I must tell you that once again...you're mistaken. One's orientation has no affect on their muscle mass, nor on their ability to fight. Your 6'1'' fat ass is probably less likely to be able to beat anyone without using the old run 'em over routine. I'm sure a Sobe bottle to your face is more than enough to break that nose of your so-called intimidating self. Won't be so scary lying on the floor crying and bleeding, now will you? I'd also like to point out the old line, the most hobophobic people are the ones deepest in the closet.

For the record, I'm not gay. However, I do feel that I must say something in their defense from ignorant, incompetent, and slightly less evolved people such as yourself.

Thank you, and have a good day.

Newspaper from the time period actually, and that was just one instance that has stuck out in my mind.

Newspapers are commonly used a way to spread misconceptions, telling people what to focus on, and how to think about it. Spreading negative ideas about candidates is one obvious one. Newspapers are a mainstream form of communication and will obviously contain lies and facts that have yet to be proven. One thing the newspaper specializes in, above all else, is to make their stories sound as interesting as possible. The title may not be exactly what the story says, and may just be about one part of the story, stating what "may be". How you don't know that the mainstream media and other forms of communication do this on a daily basis is beyond me.

I knew Magazines and Tabloids, and Tv did that, Newspapers on the other hand, I've always considered the most reliable media source.

And that is where you are mistaken.

Bravo, Ryouichi. You said what I've been meaning to say, but a lot classier. (I'd have said "fuck" a few more times, for instance.)

My mind...in the short...War=good,more deaths=less people on earth...government=bad,more government=less freedom...at this point, i really don't give a flying shit who becomes the pres, i just want our fuck-tard bush outta here! I want McCain, plain and simple, you can't and won't change my mind(if I was pres, I'd fucking nuke the hell outta our enemies,but thats why i'll never be pres.)
say what you want, i'm done here, go McCain, fuck Obama, fuck Clinton, fuck Bush.

this is the best thing you've ever said XD

... I'm not being derogatory.

of course you are, because what he says contradicts itself

The only thing I don't like about war is the damage to the earth, and who is put on the front lines. Bush should be out there, what ever happened to the days where the leaders die in war? Why do all the good presidents get shot, can't Bush be next?
I like Oboma, I started out hatting him, but he brainwashed me when I heard him speak. He's shady, but he seems real to me, not a wig ready to make a show of something that went wrong.
Hillary needs to fucking die too, stupid girl dose not know how to shut the hell up and sit down untill it's over obvious she needs to.
This whole war is pointless, we should just put all our enery,man powers, and money into better public transportations and alternative car fuels. Oh how about schools, so we do not send more idiots into the world.
I, myself, know I could have done better if I had better teachers that did not just throw a book at me and then hand my a closed book test. I'm sick of seeing good people getting fucked over because of the "No child left behind act." and school cut backs.(was that too off topic?)

But have you heard the changes he wants to make? He keeps talking about "its time for change" but do you know what those changes are?
And do you know exactly how these changes are going to effect the everyday american citizen?

Because he's not a good president. :wink: However it'd be cool if Bush was like that prez in Metal Gear Solid 2 that gets held hostage so you have to send in a remote controlled missile to try to get in the room.

Seriously this might be offtopic but that prez was a dumbass, he kept going "wuts that" and ran INTO my missile.

No, I don't. And it's why I don't really support Obama, only, I'm anti McCain.

I don't really think that after any war life "gose back to normal" there are always going to be big changes made, and they could be worst, just look at history, war changes what we have to live with. More dies then people.

(What happened to inpeaching(sp?) people?)

i heard someone reading a resolution to impeach bush a couple weeks ago,

as for the elections, i havent really been keeping tabs on it since, well i have no cable, and the fact i cant vote yet, but if i could id probably go with obama, he seems like a good candidate, i just wish the elections would be over soon so bush can get the park out

impeachment?
nobody's been impeached before.
ever.
nixon came close, but thats it.

Actually,
To be impeached means to be formally accused of wrong doing when refering to politicians.
And they're are 2 presidents that have been impeached.
Andrew Jackson and Bill Clinton.
You were right, however, about Nixon coming close.
While they were starting the paperwork for impeachment, Nixon resigned before they had they could finish it.