exactly what the topic says: What is your opinion on the death penalty? This came up in a chat just now so I figure why the hell not XD

my opinion:

I do not support the death penalty. Nobody should have the right to choose whether one lives or dies. It should not happen. So what to do with the serial killers then? let them live. Put them to work cleaning sewage plants with chains 'round their ankles or something and give them their daily bread and water, but don't kill em. Hell keep em in solitary confinement, with an hour of sunlight a week or even month, again with only their daily bread and bi-hourly water. Honestly I think they get off too easily - kill someone, they die, no guilt. Kill someone, live for another 40 years cleaning crap off the walls or pissing into a bucket, much guilt. One does not deserve to die for taking the life of another, it is immoral in my opinion and too generous to them.

If you kill one who has killed another, are you then any better than the first killer? 'tis an eye for an eye making the whole world blind...

discuss.

AYE if that could happen anyway but rather then the life they get to live out now in jail and alot of the time be set free i'd rather they just died i mean the way things are now they get better treatment then alot of kids in our country three hot meals a day health care ... it would be good if your idea was ever put to play then again my idea wouldn't ever be either XD


eh one things for sure if they aren't killed (to save the GOOD people money) they shouldn't live the life they do now some people like being in jail they love having no worries other then if someone going to rape you or kill you... but who knows maybe they get off on that XD


OOOOOOOH i know send em all to a island somwhere make them farm it work together to live feed the guards goodly but only feed the prisoners if they are willing to atleast try to feed them selves

In B4 more George Carlin references.

In all honesty though, I'm not a fan of the death penalty either. It's one of those hypocrite laws made so that cowardly white people can justify their fear of others. And to make matters worse, it originated in Europe, the place our forefathers tried to escape from.

Isn't it ironic?

First of all, welcome to the forums.

Secondly, I firmly believe the death penalty should be in place. It would keep more criminals in line and besides, I support killing because of the surplus population and amount of retards on the planet.

Cold? Yes. But it's what I think.

XD well I admit that some people being killed off should result in a darwin award for who/whatever done it but far as I'm concerned long as the -real- retards aren't in the gene pool then I happy >.> XDD the "real" retards being the ones that would somehow remove themselves were there not someone who would stop/save em >.> XDD

and thanks XD

and in seriousness I can respect that opinion >.> I can't agree with it simply because of how I am but ya XD

Personally, I don't believe in the death penalty, if only because what I think we should do is pull a-

Well, I don't remember the name of that story, but they should be sent to an island where we get to hunt the imbeciles down. Man, I loved that story, did a 14-page report on in back in the day.
But yeah.

Personally while funny, I'd find that idea, if you're serious, a little too off as I think it might drive the hunters [definitely the hunted] crazy.

It depends on the situation, I don't like it as it is because currently it could result in an innocent death, and you can't reverse that. However, we do have a surplus population. ALSO, the death penalty doesn't waste as much money as keeping prisoners alive. IN ADDITION, sustaining people off of meager supplies of bread and water is inhumane. :/

Oh yes. because criminals always keep in line when the threat of death is looming above them [/sarcasm]

Sorry, but that statement just seems more like wishful thinking brought on by paranoia and hatred of sorts. Two things that the American justice system (Amongst other justice systems) happens to be built upon.

Inhumane? Perhaps. But there's worse.

Case in point. This is by far the worst idea to spawn from a human mind. It's blood sport like this that makes you wonder who TRULY deserves a death penalty. Honestly, if it came down to bread and water for the rest of your life VS this, I'd choose bread and water hands down. The absolute LAST thing we could possibly need is this type of ignorance serving as a catalyst to create worse criminals.

teehee i liked that story

but yea
fukken kill them
taxpayers pay to keep them alive in prison

also, penal colonies never end well. case in point: america, australia

I personally think the death penalty is a necessary evil.

And that's all I have to say on the matter.

The following are my wife's words, not mine. Though I agree with them to a certain point. Starting after this sentence my wife will be the one typing.

I think that for the less physcally harmful stuff, like theft we ought to take the higher road and not go for the eye for an eye consept. Stick with the punshment we have for that already. I haven't done much research on it and I may be wrong, but that seems to be working.
On the other hand what ever harm someone causes another, I think they ought to feel the same pain. I guy rapes and murders a poor girl, the family of that girl should be able to decide whether that guy should face the same fate. And if the do, He should be raped and murdered by another guy in the same fashion that he did it to that girl. I saw in a movie where the did this vertually as a way of rehebilitation. Why couldn't we do that for real until we develope the technology to do it virtually?

but then you'd just make another rapist

and if you'e gonna kill a guy it doesnt matter what happens before

aye >.> a life is a life whichever way it is looked at...

and in relation to that last paragraph by your wife J, to me it perfectly sums up a quote of Mahatma Gandhi - "An eye for an eye making the whole world blind". Were it done with a machine of some sort...then would not the creators of that machine be responsible for the life it ends, assuming it were programmed to end a life?

I think I remember the movie she's talking about, though I can't remember the title. In that movie they didn't kill the person in real life, virtual simulation just let the rapists and murders feel the exact same pain that they inflicted on their victims. They were killed in the virtual simulations the same way that they killed their victims. When they did, they woke from the similation a new person and better with a second chance at life. Never harming another soul again. Or at least this was the consept. The movie is about this going wrong in a certain case where an man was found guilty of a murder he did not commit. The machine was designed with the assumtion that ever man found guilty is guilty.

>.> well that I finds to actually be a reasonably good idea really XD course only if someone is found guilty beyond all reasonable doubt however >.> else we'd be acquitting people who've gone through it already something like...92 years or whatever after their "death" (which is part of how I originally formed mine opinion on such things as the death penalty as this happened to an ozzie man apparently...). and a Darwin Award to the designers if they can set it to disable (not hack off) a rapist's...erm..bawls (or in the case of female rapists, whatever they needs disable >.>) XD

however if such were to happen, regardless of the pain they'd go through, I'd at least want to see a tagging system put in place and some way of monitoring their actions in the case of murderers however (assuming the neutering of rapists XD)...immoral it may seem but were I to choose between that and death I'd choose to be tagged meself XD

okay depp since when did any idea in a movie EVER work

that is why it is a movie
you pay 7 dollops to waste two hours

Tell that to Anonymous.

I'll keep this one short.

For those of you who are against the death penalty, and assume it as an immoral act, endorsed by those of the same nature, I'll go on ahead and play along. I'm messed up in the head. I'm overly cynical with slightly sociopathic tendencies.

I fully believe in the death penalty. It helps the economic situation, lessens crowded jail cells, and brings the end justice to those families; but hey why not just follow with the popular opinion. I just love the idea of death and watching people scream and churn in their own pitiful anger as they slowly pass from this world to the next. The idea that the justice system fully supports a death in some meager way, only lets me quench my unsatiated urge to view the end of a single, unmeaningful spec of life as it vanishes from this reality.

Did you believe that? I hope not, because it would have been all too easy to mislead you. My whole point is that the death penalty is not as sinister as some may wish to believe it is. Thanks to all those whom cry out in the opposite of what I just said, pleading for one to partake in their pretentious games of right and wrong. None of which exists. Life is life. It can be taken away in an instant, and counts for nothing.

In reality, human life does matter. Humans thrive, and life off of one another. When one turns on that concept, then it's only reasonable to assume that it cannot support with others in a way that is beneficial to humanity, and thereby must be removed in one way or another.

What about that, did you follow me on that one, too? Am I really messed up? Or am I just leading it on. My real point is that no one should judge on what it truly right or wrong. What is right to one, is wrong to another, and baffling to a third. I support the death penalty, however, in reality, despite what was said earlier, I am a big supporter for human rights. It's easy to yell out in moral beliefs. A murderer of two can be forgiven through hard work, and true regret. Even if he must sit in a jail cell for the rest of his years. No matter if he is allowed to sit and breath,simple, basic rights in which he himself denied two others. Those two will go on, without a single other thought, a single breath, their last memories being of terror and lament. And now...they rot. What if those two were your wife, and your son. Not so easy to be so forgiving when it happens to you. Easy when it happens to an unknown group of others.....

i forgot about this before, but that's cruel and unusual punishment.
uhyuh

also
the most dangerous game is cool
but hummm
i wouldnt want it to be real

I don't think you're thinking about it as it relates to society though. What does the message tell the people? What does it make for productivity? Less people = less work. Did you know a good number of first world countries already banned the death penalty?

While I agree we're over populated as a whole world, I don't think it makes sense to kill someone for killing. I think the idea of tagging makes more sense in my opinion.

Live and let live… kill and let die… doesn’t sound as nice, but we kill baby cows and eat chicken fetuses, death is a natural part of life I like the whole “eye for an eye” thing. And contrary to Ghandi’s believe it dose not make us all blind and tooth less, it makes us walk around with our hand over one eye and it makes the stupid people shut the fuck up because they have no teeth to talk with. I think it lets the nicer people have the upper hand in society.
They say that society evolves from chaos, to order, to chaos, and back to order; if we want a stable balance of the two we have to form a chaotic system(order) of dealing with the problems that come up. We kill some people and let some live.
In WW2 the US went to war and supported the anti-war movement. This could be because the political heads feared their jobs being taken away for upsetting the growing population of youth liberals. But because the republic (us) has the power, the political heads have to satisfy a balance between the two opposing parties that stand in ever decision that has to be made.
Should So-And-So be executed for killing 50 kids even though he or she is under age? You have two parties saying different thing. When we vote it shows the government’s failure to produce a division. They have to make it. If you let the kid live, more kids could try and do the same thing, if the kid is executed it’s all over the papers that the person who sentenced So-And-So is a child killer. One life can not amend for many lives and some people are better off dead then taking up space in jails. But some people deserve to just wrought. But let’s be kind and just end their lives. There are too many people on this earth eating food the tax payers pay for. We need to spend that kind of money on schools so my teacher isn’t so pissed off all the time. Why feed criminals when your family needs food? Or the youth of tomorrow needs better teachers and book with all the bloody pages in them?

jail time is too long
they should shorten sentences for sex offenders and druggies

Why is it too long? Why should it be shortened?

hookers shouldn't be jailed.

But WHY?

Because SOME are really sexy and nice, and what's wrong with money and sex? STDs! And if we were smart we'd tax the hell out of them and tag them like cows so we know what ones can't be used.
Makes little kids go," I don't want to be a slut, I hate taxes!"

That....would be an interesting way to take care of the problem....unconventional...

But women, no matter what her "profession" should not be tagged like cattle.

Oh, and if I didn't say this before, I'm for the death penalty.

I blame schools for my way of carelessness with a HUMAN life, mine included. I don’t blame school for a lot, but it’s what a school is that makes me desensitized to people dying or selling their bodies for a place to sleep. We are, after all, animals. Without society we’re tear each other up for food and safety, or the chance to mate. The whole “as strong as your weakness link.” Is ideal for small groups, but you need to tap into that natural motivation to “stay with the pack” instinct. The human race naturally applauds the best and healthiest, kids too smart are called nerds, too neglectful of school work and their air headed, we shun curtain people and that person tries to be seen even more; thus motivating them to a chive greatness and advance the human race.
The death penalty is like restart. Ok you failed or you have something wrong with you mentally, but we’re not going to kill you and we’re just going to let you sit in this cage for ever. Domesticated animals can’t even do that.

So...you feel that the death penalty is reverting to our animal instincts, and therefore, bad?

No, I think we need it to balance out chaotic and human side. Our irrational fears this if you let so-and-so live s/he could come after you. Some people are very instinct oriented and the world we’ve made for us can’t accept that, so we try and get rid of sed-person, but where do we put the people we don’t want? It’s not like we’re the USSR. And France’s banished people came back to take over. Locking people we don’t want in our society or killing them is the only way to make sure we’re “safe”